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What people are saying about the Maynland Farm...

 

Dear Commissioner Schultz:
 
Thank you for answering my e-mail quickly.  Local residents have approached the Park District on the Mayneland farm.  As you may know, Park District is currently focusing on building a big recreation center.  They probably won't mind that the Mayneland farm to be developed as townhouses so that the Park District can receive cash for the new recreation center.
 
I'm not blaming the Park District to build recreation Center.  In addition to the recreation center, they also emphasize on maintaing ball fields.  In its view, mowing lawn is OK but maintaining a pond is costly.  (It is probably true but I still like to see some natural ponds.)  I don't see the Park District put high priority on preserving/maintaining/exploring nature environment.  They may also lack of knowledge on how to deal with natural environment.  I think Forest Preserve can do much better handling natural environment and provide such help.
 
The Mayneland Farm is not big.  We may think it is costly to maintain on per acre base.  But it is cheaper on per location base since it is small.  It can provide many natural features (steep slope, gentle slope, depression, flood plain, pond, trees, ground water/spring, and the origin of a permanent creek; not mentioning the geology which controls/causes all these features) in a small piece of land.  It probably provides more features than many large parks/preserves.  On a per feature bases, it is definetly worthwhile to preserve.
 
I would like to say "Not every piece of land are the same".  Some flat, featureless land is good for farms, housing development or ball fields.  Other (nature) feature rich land is not suitable for these usages, but worthwhile to be preserved.  For farms, house development and ball fields; the value of the land is pretty much proportional to its size.  However, for nature preservation, the value of the land should not be proportional to the size of the land.  It should mostly be valued as how significant/unique its nature features are.  The size  does play a role for recreation purposes (e.g. length of the trail).  However, the significance/uniqueness is very important for education/scenery purposes.
 
Please let me know if my view is imcomplete or incorrect.  Appreciate your time and effort on this discussion.
 
Sincerly,
 
Li-Ping Yuan

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First Letter about the Library...

How do we all feel about a library at the Mayneland farm?

IF THE FARM BECAME THE 4th LIBRARY
We have 4 schools in walking distance
We would all object if the trees were leveled. As the developer wants to do. We would make the city preserve the trees/ land contour.
The traffic would be more, however NOT at rush hour. And most in the area would walk or bike ride.
The flood area and land contour will be saved to a park like setting with possible athletic field.
Maybe Mill St. school will get a larger parking lot than the 10 car or was it 6? From the developer.
If they expand Nichols library parking into a deck you know who will use the parking and it won't be library patrons. At the cost of the new parking deck at Nichols library they can buy half the farm!
I live next to the farm and I am for a library.
lizalynn@sbcglobal.net

Dear Council members:

     Thank you for rejecting the Weatherstone current design. However, considering a "single house only" plan is still not an answer. The Cress Creek watershed flooding problem needs the southern Mayneland Farm to solve.

     City completed the "staff analysis of the Cress Creek watershed" study in 2004-2005 according to the "Strategic Plan Goal Accomplishments, 2004-2005". City also started "Cress Creek Watershed Study" to find solutions for the existing flooding problems. Based on this stduy, city requested Kimball Hill Homes to install a second 66 inch pipe alone the southern edge of the Farm in order to solve the flooding problem upstream from (east of) the Farm. We appreciate city's effort and put the flooding problem at high priotity.

     However, the 66 inch pipe will cause major flooding problem downstream in Creekside/Cress Creek subdivisions. In my (with Ph. D. degree in Geology) oppnion, the best and probably the only solution for Cress Creek flooding problem is to use the southern Mayneland Farm as a big water detention basin. No other open land nearby can be used for water detention.

     The "Cress Creek Watershed Study" was to be completed by the end of fiscal year 2005, according to the Plan Commission meeting minutes of June 15, 2005. However, after realizing that the 66 inch pipe would cause major flooding problem downstream, I have been told that the study will not be comleted for at least another year or longer. To me, it seems that the study is running out of solution and cannot continue.

     Please preserve the southern Mayneland Farm as a detention basin to solve Cress Creek flooding problem. At a minimum, do not allow any construction on the southern Mayneland Farm until the "Cress Creek Watershed Study" completed with a good flooding solution.

     Thanks you for your consideration.

Li-Ping Yuan
821 Zaininger Ave.
(630)548-4095

Robert Jusino, DC., MPH.

The question is not whether or not we could fit more cars on these roads? The question should be, is it wise to fit more cars on these roads? Do we as a community want to do this? How much do we value our children’s safety? Read his commnents to the Traffic commision...

This is why 1,043 ( More signed every day! Ed.) residents in this area have concerns over increasing traffic in this children school crossroad intersection and has petitioned the Planning Commission to limit any development to lower density and lower traffic developments, versus a higher density multifamily development with higher traffic impact.

Read his report to the Planning Commission!

Flash Updated Info!!!

Flash this just came in...How dense is dense!

It is a presentation that was given to the planning commission on 3/15/06 concerning the extreme density of the Weatherstone development proposal. This a great way to explain why the neighborhood is so against this high density development. The density in the housing is TWICE as dense as the Cress Creek Townhomes directly west of the proposed development.
The

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John Gafrick

Li-Ping Yuan
821 Zaininger Ave. Naperville, IL 60563; lipingyuan@yahoo.com
M.S., Geology, specializing in Geomorphology and landform changes. University of Illinois at Chicago.
Ph.D., Geology, specializing in fluid flow through porous media. University of South Carolina.
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"Not every piece of land is the same. That’s why we need to do planning to best use our limited land resources.

The Mayneland farm is very different from other pieces of land, even its surroundings. In fact, within this farmland, it can ....."
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NO NO NO! to the housing developments on Mill and Bauer Streets.

Our City Council members protect land for parks, swamplands and forest preserves in the middle and southern end of Naperville so why not the North end?

I am concerned as many of us, with the disadvantages more housing will bring. Our traffic volume is high enough in this area especially with the three surrounding schools and what about the capacity of these schools? This housing will increase the population in the area and decrease many of the safeguards already in existence.

Additionally, if over populated and congested--what will that do the property values in this area? I also feel we have enough retention ponds in the area already and a natural rentention basin would be more feasible for this area. Although Mr. Mayneland has the right to sell his property, I hope he does it for the good of the residents still living in the area, and not just the money.

This land must be used for the people's benefit, not the builders or the creation of a larger tax base.

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Hello,
Here is the arial view of the trees that Kimball homes referred to as "mostly scrub trees". Looks more like a forest to me. I am emailing this to you to post on your website. I found this arial view on zillow.com.

Jayne ...

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Sometimes words alone cannot tell the whole story about a place or a time. I took these pictures of the farm over the last year. I know that development will happen, but it does not have to destroy everything of beauty. Take a look and you can see what will be lost and gone forever if this wonderful land is graded flat as a pool table and all the trees are cut and destroyed.

Liza

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Hi napervoice,

This area is a very traffic wise, congested. I do not want to have another 670 cars per day into this area. Because I use it.

I hope that the planning commission will vote NO on all of the builders wants. I would like to see the park dist. get this land for a Disk Golf course. This side of town has none. Or a dog park would be good too. This way there would be no maintenance on the property and I think that is what is so costly for the park Dist. If they obtain the land and use it for these proposes in the future when they have more money they can make it a much needed soccer field.

I also want to give my opinion on this gravel pit that is shallow, well it’s shallow for one reason, they hit a spring…..and it’s the spring that makes cress creek! So when they put their road or house on it where will it go???? Probably all over Mill St.

And another point why don’t they just put in about 12 homes, save the forest make the pit into a beautiful pond and everyone will be happy even Mr. Mayne who wants to sell.

Thank you, concerned citizen.

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Does every piece of land in Naperville have to be developed with high density housing? The city is becoming unrecognizable considering single home tear downs and building of apartments/condos all over it so that it no longer has the "small town" atmosphere wanted by the people who moved here in the first place. High density housing at the corner of Mill & Bauer will increase school population at Mill, Jefferson and Naperville North and increase traffic on Mill and Bauer. I live on North Webster St. a block south of Bauer, and I am definitely opposed to high density development at the captioned site.
Aunt1hcl@cs.com

To Robert Jusino or whom it may concern,

You have more allies than you may think. Rumors of a new frisbee golf course at the mill/bauer site have taken their toll, and many, I mean hundreds, of teenagers are willing to help the cause of turning that site into at least a park. My group of friends have taken the time to email the petition jpg to all their friends, in turn doing the same, and so on exponentially down the line. We just recently found out about the official petitions, otherwise you would have received a good number of them signed already. We are willing to collect many more signatures in the future, so long as the effort is not fruitless. Thanks for your time, please respond as soon as possible!

Mike Finneran

I have been buying my vegetable at the stand for many years and hate to see it gone. But if Mr. Mayne wants to retire than he has every right to.

But on the other hand if he really wants to sell than he should sell to some one who does not want to level everything and build an enormous amount of buildings.

I am just sick of what these builders want to build. It is too much and too many.

The public is right they will come in and build their really high density / subdivision and leave. Leaving us with a lot more students and way to much traffic.

NO NO NO.

The signs say it all!!!

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